Thursday, May 29, 2014

"this evil symbol of the devil"

From Wikipedia (my italics):
The Welsh Dragon – Welsh: Y Ddraig Goch ("the red dragon") pronounced [ə ˈðraiɡ ˈɡoːχ] – appears on the national flag of Wales. The flag is also called Y Ddraig Goch. The oldest recorded use of the dragon to symbolise Wales is in the Historia Brittonum, written around AD 829, but it is popularly supposed to have been the battle standard of King Arthur and other ancient Celtic leaders. Its association with these leaders along with other evidence from archaeology, literature, and documentary history lead many to suppose that it evolved from an earlier Romano-British national symbol. During the reigns of the Tudor monarchs, the red dragon was used as a supporter in the English Crown's coat of arms (one of two supporters, along with the traditional English lion). The red dragon is often seen as symbolising all things Welsh, and is used by many public and private institutions. These include the Welsh Government, Visit Wales, and numerous local authorities including Blaenau Gwent, Cardiff, Carmarthenshire, Newport, Rhondda Cynon Taf, Swansea, and sports bodies, including the Sport Wales National Centre, the Football Association of Wales, Cardiff City F.C., Newport Gwent Dragons, and London Welsh RFC.
But now the Welsh Christian Party ("proclaiming Christ's Lordship") have decided Y Ddraig Goch is Satan himself:
"We will not allow this evil symbol of the devil to reign over Wales for another moment. Wales is the only country in history to have a red dragon on its national flag. This is the very symbol of the devil described in The Book of Revelation 12:3. This is nothing less than the sign of Satan, the devil, Lucifer that ancient serpent who deceived Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. No other nation has had this red dragon as its ruling symbol. Wales has been under demonic oppression and under many curses because of this unwise choice."
The reverend goes on to add, with ludicrous falsity: "This symbol was only introduced in 1959 and is not the historic symbol of Wales."

Of course, what they "will not allow" and what they can actually do are rather different things. They have - dun dun DUN - a petition.

Fortunately, not all Welsh Christians are against the ancient symbol:
Bishop David Yeoman said few Christians in Wales would associate the dragon with the devil.

He said, "The dragon is a very ancient symbol in Wales. I don't think Christians see it as demonic. They see it as a symbol of the past."
The revered (rather than reverend) Welsh historian John Davies said: "It's been part of our tradition for more than 1,500 years. On the other hand the flag of St David has a much more specific remit."

ps: here is the St David's flag, another boring cross. Looks like part of Scandinavia...


ps - while image searching for St David's flag I found this proposed replacement:
my little pony-dragon

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At 4:15 PM, May 29, 2014 Anonymous Anonymous had this to say...

"Nothing less than the sign of Satan"? I'd say it falls short of what's described in Revelation 12:3 by about six heads, ten horns, and seven crowns.

At 3:55 AM, May 30, 2014 Anonymous Picky had this to say...

Well, no, not Scandinavian – they all have the Scandinavian or Nordic Cross, where the crux is off-centre. Such flags are also to be found in Orkney and Shetland and the Hebrides and such-like Nordic-rich parts of the UK.

St David's flag (a fairly new invention) follows not the Nordic pattern but instead the pattern of the St George's flag of England, with the crux centred. It is probably derived from the St Piran's flag of Cornwall, white cross on black.

Those English counties without recognised flags have recently taken to acquiring them, and they, too, frequently employ the centred-crux cross. Devon and Dorset come to mind.


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