Wednesday, December 31, 2008

Why?

I was reading something at Literal Minded (Neal talking about misinterpreting a question as a speech act) and I went back to an older post he referenced (on where the 'front' of a line is). On that post he had a comment in which he was faux-politely chided for writing "whether or not":
Surely you didn’t really mean to write “whether or not….” A literal-minded fellow like you doubtless meant to write “whether…,” as the “or not” is superfluous in the context of that sentence. I refer you to the excellent article titled “Avoiding the Curse of Whetherornot” at page 41 of “The Scribes Journal of Legal Writing,” vol. 6 (1996 - 1997).
"Curse" seemed a bit strong. Yes, in that sentence it wasn't strictly necessary to have an "or not", but it didn't seem worth fretting over. Some redundancy is always with us, after all. But I was curious, so, since I don't have have that book, I glanced at Google ... and the very first hit on this curse was something called Writer's Block, which offered four situations in which "or not" should never be used. Two of them are clearly okay - one is like Neal's, with only two options and one in fact is clearly an error (Whether or not you drive or take the bus) - but the other two puzzle me.
1. Where the alternatives are immaterial:

* Whether or not literature is available on computer, readers are likely to continue to cherish books.

Prefer:
* Regardless of whether literature is available on computer, readers are likely to continue to cherish books.

3. Where emphasis on both alternatives is desired:

* Whether or not Canadians agree, tax revenues must increase.

Prefer:
* Whether Canadians agree or [whether] they don't, tax revenues must increase.
Can someone out there give me an actual reason (other than peeveology) that Regardless of whether, or Whether Canadians agree or they don't, is is better than whether or not? Either example? Especially that second one, which simply shoehorns in "they do" between the whether and the not?

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3 Comments:

At 9:22 AM, January 01, 2009 Blogger AbbotOfUnreason had this to say...

I don't have an answer for you, but I see that they start with "There are three scenarios..." and then give us 4.

I also think that if you say whether over and over again it stops sounding like a real word.

 
At 6:00 PM, January 01, 2009 Blogger The Ridger, FCD had this to say...

I find that's true of many words!

 
At 11:08 PM, January 03, 2009 Anonymous Anonymous had this to say...

To me, it looks like the advice givers couldn't tell the difference between whether introducing an indirect question (in which case the or not is redundant, though not necessarily bad, as you and I agree), and whether X or Y as a subordinating conjunction to mean "regardless of whether X or Y". As a result, to be completely safe, they figured out a way of avoiding the or not in the second situation. I've written more about whether or not here and here.

 

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