Saturday, October 17, 2009

What might have been - or be

"The human fascination with what might have been is tiresome, Doctor." General Martok said that to Dr Bashir in the Deep Space Nine episode "Soldiers of the Empire". Earl in Pickles has been expressing the same sentiment, differently phrased, in Pickles all this week, ending with today's strip:

Earl: 'What if is just pointless speculation.' Opal: 'What if I decided never to bake brownies again?' Earl: 'What if you forget my last remark and go bake some now?'

Earl and Opal have crossed from wondering "what might have been" to "what might be".

Interestingly, in English, they both are expressed with "if + past" (a trait English shares with Russian, by the way), but usually the aspect is different: "what if I had decided" is counter-factual, but "what if I decided" is merely a question about the future.

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At 2:35 PM, October 17, 2009 Blogger Barry Leiba had this to say...

I'd say that "What if I decided...?" is colloquial usage. The more "proper" form, which we'd consider a bit formal, stilted, or at least hoity-toity, is "What if I should decide...?"

In informal usage, it's ambiguous, and needs context. It's perfectly common to omit the "had" in past-tense usage as well.

 
At 2:41 PM, October 17, 2009 Blogger The Ridger, FCD had this to say...

"What if I should decide?" I'd never say that.

It's barely possible that I'd say "Should I decide..."

But you're right. "What if I married Bob instead of Jim?" is common enough. Though "What if I'd ..." is more common, in my experience, though the 'd can be easily elided.

 
At 4:16 PM, October 18, 2009 Anonymous Uncle G had this to say...

I'd say "What if I were to decide ..."

But what do I know?

 
At 4:28 PM, October 18, 2009 Blogger The Ridger, FCD had this to say...

Ah! The elusive subjunctive seen in the wild!

Yes, that's the formal and old way - the problem being that only for "to be" does that form differ from the simple past.

 

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